Wednesday, August 27, 2008

Why do people create pures in Runescape?

Answering G's question from the previous post here is my understanding about why people want (or wanted) to create pures in Runescape:

1. To own other players and get kicks out of it.
That's the main reason no matter how you look at it. Having a pure account allows you to engage in battle with non-pure accounts with similar combat level easily be that in the Duel Arena, Bounty Hunter or (used to be) low level wilderness. Obviously a pure will normally win a battle against a non-pure opponent with the same combat level, which pleases a pure owner's ego.

2. To make tons of money in the Duel Arena.
The Duel Arena used to be pures playground and stacking was a way to make a lot of money quickly. Pures were used to deceit opponents with similar combat levels into stacking money or items. In fact, most of the pures used to hang out there instead of going into the wilderness.

3. To be able to rule low level wilderness.
Having low level combat allowed pures to attack almost everyone in low level wilderness, while people with high level combat would have to go deeper.

4. A historical reason.
In the Runescape Classic time PvP combat was quite different. A player was allowed to make three hits on his/her opponent before the opponent could eat or run. Thus an ability to 3-hit (KO to the death) was the most important weapon of a pkiller. Players concentrated on increasing this ability, which eventually led to creation of pures. Pures were considered to be "elite" pking weapons and this perception was transferred into Runescape 2, though the 3-hit rule was eliminated.

Well, those were the reasons I could think of.

Nowadays life of pures is much more limited and many pures left the game all together. Mostly after the Duel Arena update last year. Then removal of pking in the wilderness finished the deal. Pures are still excelling in games such as Bounty Hunter (where they can enter low level caves) and new Duel Arena (where they can still deceit other players) into "unfair" battles, though stakes are low.

Finally, to answer G's question about a 60/60/1 Attack/Strength pure having a chance against a skiller with 60/60/60 Attack/Strength/Defence:

  • If you simply look at the stats the skiller should win easily (and, by the way, Strength pures are not supposed to go against "full rune", it's not their specialty).
  • But taking in account pures experience in PvP combat, I wouldn't bet on it.
It is often overlooked that one big reason pures are so good at PvP is because they are so experienced in killing other players, stats or no stats.

P.S. And by the way, an experienced mage pure will rip a skiller with the same mage level and bunch of other combat stats to pieces any time. Mark my word.

P.P.S. You don't go looking for nice people within the pure players community.

10 comments:

G said...

Thank you! I see your point about being experienced at pk and I think that's the glaring thing that I missed. And the point about the higher cb levels being deeper in the wildy makes sense as well. I guess thats where I kept getting hung up on, that the majority stick to killing the lower level players.

Thanks again for clarifying!

Anonymous said...

Great post on pures. You nailed the description of them to a "T".

Isn't it somewhat amusing that runescape's definiton of pure and a standard dictionary's definiton of pure are almost completely different.

Anonymous said...

This must be one of the first posts I disagree with.

A pker mage would stand little chance against anyone with dragon hide with a similar combat level even using barrage.

Im not a pker but I have seen off many pure mage, range and 1 def melee, a pure is and always has been a soft target, pures rely on luck to get a kill in before the other player escapes or gets to them, if they cant get the kill quick they tele because they have nothing left.

I would sooner meet a pure than a balanced player of the same combat level because with a pure the fight will be over quickly and they will normally have food left over to eat if attacked again.

Pures are great at killing people using the abyss and training agility in the wildy, all pretty much redundant now.

Vaskor said...

Steve, it's all IHMO of course, but I personally have had a lot of troubles dealing with mage pures when my Att/Def/Str stats were between 40 and 70. I can only think that you with 99 combat stats and experience in PvP battles (yes, I remember your posts about turning back on pkers in wildy) is not an easy prey for pures or other pkers for that matter.

Anonymous said...

I haven't always been 99 in all combat stats,

Most mages in wildy had melee friends to protect them because of their vulnerability, the main problem with mage attacks is people went ill prepared, black dragon hide or the best you can wear would protect from barrage quite nicely, that would make you vulnerable to melee and range attacks but you can run from melee and just hope you arn't attacked range, its easy to kill someone running away with mage and range, pures rely on the fear factor to avoid being confronted.

I wasn't any good as a pker but the reason I could get my own back was because I had cheap armour on and didn't care if I died.

I used to escort treasure trailers that I found on my travels, they were never sure if I would have killed them when they got the clue, but I saw off a few pkers that way.

I'm glad you remember my posts, makes me pleased I wrote them.

Anonymous said...

Steave,
A low lvl pure counters there defence with higher hp lvls. with 85 mage at lvl 50cmb the skiller/ main's lvl 40 defence is baisically ruduced to nothing. Once there is a high lvl pure ( rune pure(40 def with whip and dds) or barrows hybrid) then those strengths are then what gives the advantage over the defence lvl. When i first constructed my mage pure at lvl 45 with 75 magic in F2p Id beatin a few low lvl 90's. That is the difference of a pure.

above continued said...

Also every barrows hybrid that is maging should have high stength and a DDS on him ready to spec ko his opponent as soon as the oppertunity arises.

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