Short analysis of the last few skills added to Runescape, a trend there and how Summoning became a successful link in this trend. Also talk about money sinks being a goodness to the economy and subsequently to the players, which I fully agree with.
Wednesday, January 23, 2008
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There are a few elements of truth in this post but many things are over looked, this skill will bring in a lot of money into the economy, since it came out I have only trained slayer to get the charms I have spend 2m on shards and made 10m from monster drops, a lot more people are training slayer and therefore more monster drops coming into circulation, I have even sold pouches that I don't want, I cant see people getting their investment back from using the familiars like Jagex think (most wont be used) but it is no way a money sink, mind you I haven't got to rune minators yet.
Nope, I beg to differ, Steve.
Although you may have gathered five times as much cash from extra Slaying compared to the amount spent on Crystal Shards, only a fraction of the 10 million is in actual gp form. As such, Summoning *is* a money sinkhole because it gets rid of much more gp.
The other non-currency monster drops do not count as actual "money" even if an over-circulation of those items may affect the market.
This is a bad example because they don't drop anything else of value but if you kill wolves get wolf bones and gold charms, 7 spirit shards 175gp and a pouch 1gp make the pouch sell on "GEbay" for 300gp thats a profit not a loss.
I was amazed to see that people buy pouches but they do, not all but some you need to find the ones that do and make them more.
It is possible to make money out of summoning, I choose the quick route and I make the pouch with the most xp as opposed to the one that sells easily, this route just happens to make me a lot of money and I get Slayer xp at the same time.
If a skill puts cash in my bank account I do not see that as a money sink, if the money gets there directly or indirectly it doesn't matter the end result is what matters.
We simply might have different definitions of 'money sink' in our minds :-) For me if a skill extracts gp from the game in any way, it is a money sink. Skill being money sink does not mean that players can't profit from it. Even Construction can be profitable, if you are able to sell your furniture on GE (I know some people do!).
Then comes a question how big is this money sink. In case of Summoning (after the shards price was reduced) it is not big, mostly because high alching of the pouches returns gp spent on the shards to the game. However, not all pouches are being high alched, so at the end more gp is extracted from the game, rather then created.
I can see that it can be a money sink if people don't train it efficiently but there are many more larger sinks than summoning, some obvious some may not be so obvious.
Such as crafting, smithing, prayer, magic, herblore, fletching.
The only skills that bring substantial cash onto the market is, slayer, combat, runecrafting, woodcutting, fishing, hunter, mining.
I have made a lot of cash out of summoning training, I find it hard to believe that people can train it without covering costs or making a profit.
I never pick up GP drops because it costs to much in the long run but a rune full helm or battle axe can be turned into GP in seconds on the GE.
Ive also made about 3m merchanting since summoning was introduced.
its clearly a sink, and rempoves money form the economy
if you sell wolf bones, someone else buys them
so thats a net ZERO change in money owned by players
that other person goes and creates pouches/scrolls, and has to pay NPCs for pocuhes and shards - SUBTRACTS money from player wealth
if you high alch the pocuh then yes you bring a little value back into the economy - assuming you get more than the cost of a nature rune - but not as much as you have paid
and if you SELL the pouch, then regardless HOW much you sell it for, youre taking wealth away from the economy - for the 1m gp you make selling pocuhes, others are paying 1mil
how is that not a money sink?
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